I will say that when you drop the M1A into something like the Troy or Sage battle stocks, you get a different animal all together. Manufacturers know the Joe gun owner of today spends more time in front of a computer or tv than they do at the range. Its like a stun grenade going off. WRT to op-rod issues, the M14/M1A op-rod is far sturdier than the M1 op-rod in addition the gas port is closer to the chamber whereas the M1s gas port is next to the muzzle. Those are great too. There is something about holding my Garand that just feels nice. All Loaded models have a medium-weight premium air-gauged National Match barrel for greater accuracy, plus several combinations of stocks and barrels available to ensure customization perfection. I read somewhere, and I forget where, that one of the reasons for enbloc clips vs. a box magazine was because enbloc clips fit in the existing web gear and mags wouldnt. Gotta find a competent smith in the Northeast to do the trigger work you recommend. The operating rod guide mounts to the barrel and aligns the operating rod to the gas cylinder. Winchester corrected this fault in present production Classic by having the gas venting into the magazine and installing a gas block. Its just dumb that the US Military keeps reinventing the wheel over and over again. Copper fouling can build up over a series of shots, then reduce accuracy, increasing barrel heating, etc. This is a great upgrade part for your M1A or M14! M1A Operating Rod Spring, *Very Good* $7.45. Add to Cart. The post Vietnam reforms returned to the pre-Vietnam standards. SADLAK TiNi piston & Op rod spring guide, etended mag & bolt release, schuster adjustable gas plug. Well-suited for a day at the range, competition or hanging on your wall in front of an American flag, the Standard M1A is for the patriot looking to fill a special place in their collection. Disclaimer this is NOT a Mini-14 it used a pure John Garand action for these tests!!! Dont know enough to decide. As he had the example of the BAR to inspire him it seems reasonable that he would have at least have experimented with a box mag. Does it a M1A 3 to 3.5 lbs trigger assembly and where i could order it ? My father in law was wounded in France in WII. Machined from genuine 8620 steel forgings per mil-spec. Youre going to pay for it, one way or the other. There, the 98 action, as originally conceived, stands head and shoulders above most all other bolt actions since. Available only on our complete rifle builds. With iron sights, I can achieve groups of just over 1MOA with use of a sling, a supported shooting position and premium ammo in a rack grade barreled rifle with sight, stock and trigger work. Reloading for the Match M14: Hes 93 this year and this was the first time he told that story. On the M14, tuning that bolt head repositioned a cam that turned the M14 from an automatic rifle into a machine gun. . Even the Finns built a heck of a gun off of 19th century Tula receivers. Add to Compare. The Mauser 98 is/was certainly a very good and strong action, but might be considered over-built for modern sporting purposes. PS to WLCE: Watch that stupid americans stuff not polite. Its called the Browning Automatic Rifle and it comes in at about 18 to 22 lbs. The answer was that the Ordinance Dept had this idea that soldiers were going to single-load their 03s, and keep the magazine in reserve. No lie, that was the idea. I would not advocate going back the M-14 because it is almost century old technology but we should get away from the low powered 5.56 and move back to a full sized cartridge. Integral, CNC-machined magazine catch means no more broken welds or bent stampings halfway through your range work. Add to Cart. However, I am not the military although I appreciate them being frugal with my tax dollars and not always insisting on the best which when you think about it would be impossible for them to have since the best is ever changing. The ultimate icon. Now feed one into the chamber not all the way but just enough so it pops out of the magazine and into the chamber half way. The gas escape holes face the left raceway and the raceway is really unblocked. Youre right, at todays prices, there are better ways to spend your money, and I think that Springfield has priced themselves completely out of the market at todays prices. For any hunting rifle where I might be going up against something like moose, bears, bison or buffalo or African dangerous game? I just retain the original A2 upper/ 20 chrome barrel for. Ive never been in combat, but it sounds to me like one of the most stupid ideas Ive ever heard of. Please enable Javascript and refresh the page for a safe, secure, and complete shopping experience at Midwest Gun Works. There is a wealth of info about bolt guns in his books: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/379313/bolt-action-rifle-volume-1-and-2-cd-rom-by-stuart-otteson. I did get to fire it at the range. Is that a photo of a real live M-14, or an M1A with a dummy selector? Of all the push-feed extractors, I like the Win70 post-64 type extractors the best, and something like an AR extractor translated to a bolt gun is perfectly OK as long as you dont tempt case failure by over-stoking your reloads. USGI .308 Ratcheting Chamber Cleaning Brush, NSN: 1005-690-8441, 7.62X51 NATO *NOS* M1AOP-Rod guide,in *Very Good* condition. From my experience in Afghanistan a couple of years ago, we seemed to re-learn what the Soviets did: introduce designated marksman into all squads. You really need only clean the gas piston/cylinder area, then the bolt, chamber and barrel, and youre done. Unlike the M16/AR15, the trigger group components in the M1A/M14 are usually of higher quality and amenable to being worked on by a gunsmith. The argument of clips vs. box magazines was fought out in the War Department Requirements for Semiautomatic Rifles in a requirements circular in 1921(!). The Emissary bridges the best features of defensive and custom pistols. If you review the historical accounts of the M14 project, you find that Garand was no dummy he told the Army brass that we needed an intermediate power cartridge like the 8mm Kurtz or something similar to achieve full-auto fire in a 10lb rifle. now youre just talking wholesale replacement of the hammer, trigger and disconnector. If your barrel has already been lapped, I wouldnt be fire-lapping it. Merch. Not to be deterred from their damp dreams of a full-auto rifle in a full-powered gravel belly cartridge, barely listened to Mr. Garand and conceded to lower the power to what we now know as the .308. Try the same thing with CRF. In both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. Manufacturers U.S. Military Rifles M14 Parts List Operating Rod Spring Guide, New (National Match Made by Sadlak) Operating Rod Spring Guide, New (National Match Made by Sadlak) $44.95 Manufacturer: U.S. MILITARY Model: M14, M1A SPRINGFIELD Product #: 930950 Shipment prohibited outside USA. He got emotional and told of how it saved his life many times. So what? My only complaint was that it had only a twenty-round magazine. or 6.5 Creedmoor, the M1A is offered in classic and traditional models as well as tuned precision variants and modern tactical versions. But it probably would lose to a custom CRF bolt gun in the final selection. Parts listed here are designed for Springfield Armory M1A/M14 rifle models chambered in .308 Win/7.62x51mm or 6.5 Creedmoor unless noted otherwise. You should stick to well-established loads; dont try to achieve the hottest loads, because youll beat the rifles bolt and action up. instead of replacing springs, sights, bolts, stocks etc, thinking those will make the gun accurate.Ive seen my friends replace almost everything on the gun, thinking thatl realy make the gun accurate. I stood 5ft6 and weighed 135lbs, I think the bursitis in my shoulder is the result. But it was just too long and too good not to post it on its own. Made from Hardened Tool Steel & Parkerized. For a listing of our Brownells Europe representatives. The first time any modern soldier or Marine sees this, he wonders WTF do I want to cut off the magazine for?. Sorry my bad. I came along too late for soldiers to be issued M14s with a happy switch, so cant talk about them. In bedding, it does. From 1959 to 1970, the M14 served with distinction as the standard issue rifle of the United States military after the revered M1 Garand. By the way, the picture is identified as an M1A. Of course it wasnt just the push feed that made the Model 700 cheaper to manufacture. NB the several. While I might not like ARs, I know quite a bit about them and own more than one, in more than on caliber, from more than one manufacture. By continuing to use our site, you accept our use of cookies. I know you cant be a regular, contributing member of the site authors, but please offer a brief post about it. Stoner made a gun, Garand made a rifle. When you look down your bore from the end, you cant often see the tooling marks unless you use a set of optics (like a macro camera lens) and light at the correct angle, or you use a borescope. Reconditioned/Reparkerized. SA only garantees them to shoot 3.5", so i should be happy, but I want tighter groups. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. If your smith hones the parts with a very fine stone (like a ruby stone), you can make the M1A/Garand triggers feel like youre pulling a polished glass rod across silk lingerie. A handy, tactical rifle, the M1A SOCOM 16 has a specially-engineered 16.25" barrel thats mated to the gas system with a proprietary muzzle brake to reduce felt recoil in a big way. They wouldnt consider anything else. Full Member. If you train correctly you dont normally need individual automatic fire. Includes base, dust cover, aperture, windage knob, elevation pinion. A very good and accurate rifle. Soldier proofing is a very real concept and necessity. Wood and bluing are nice and all, but what the author tells me is that he doesnt want to spend $280 for the best AR-15 trigger there is for competition (Geissele Hi-Speed) and which to me are as good as any of my tuned bolt gun triggers, but recommends that someone sink $1k+ in work (more if you rebarrel) on a $2.5k+ gun to be almost as accurate and shoot about as well as an off-the-rack $1.2k AR-15 service rifle (and its not hard to find service rifles with .25 moa click rear sights)? Someone had to have a lathe bit ground specifically to create that bevel-on-one-side groove. New, old stock. He also was one of the best shots with handguns or rifles Ive ever seen. Descended from the M14 rifle, the M1A is a civilian-legal semi-auto version of that revered U.S. Military rifle that dominates the competition fields and the heart of America. Winchester settled out of court for $250K. But because of the huge stockpiles of standard .30 cal on hand and because of the standardised chamberings for MGs, BARs and rifles this would throw a kink in the system. Replace the clip with a 20 round mag and a soldier can put out 40 aimed rounds a minute. We use cookies to give you the best possible user experience & to analyze traffic. NEW YORK & CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS: This is a standard item on rifle and barreled action builds. I qualified with both the M14 and the M16. From what I see it does nothing to smooth feeding on a M70 from the magazine since if the rifle is working properly the cartridge lines up with the chamber. . Includes roller. And yes, OK S, I am an armorer. I dont know for sure, but Ive also heard that he did contemplate putting a detachable box mag on the new rifle but was rushed into his final design by the brass. Also, you may be quoting current prices, but when I bought my M1A last year, I paid just north of $1,600 for a version that features a Nation Match barrel, National match front sight, match grade rear sight, and match tuned rear trigger. His company pulled back to consolidate the lines and his platoon lost contact with him. Flash suppressor on right (in picture) is lathe reamed using #7 taper pin reamer. If you want to compete in DCM or Leg matches, youll need a minimum 4.5 lb. They both achieve approx. I just bought this M1A even though I qualified on the M-14 back in 1969. The m1 is a 30-06 and that would have gone great with my lever action 300 Savage. Increase accuracy? Please Sign in or create an account This is a whole nuther topic which could inspire a rather lengthy thread, but Ill try to condense it as much as possible. Many of the supposed new compounds do shrink over a period of years, and the owner is left wondering how the rifle shot it self loose in the stock. It didnt shoot itself loose the compound just shrank over time. M14 Rifle Operating Rod, HRA Marked, *Very Good*, Skip to the beginning of the images gallery. Originalcondition. With high muzzle velocity, low recoil and extreme long-range accuracy, competitive shooters will also appreciate the National Match tuned 4.5- to 5-lb. Anyway, either the FAL or the M14 in maybe a shortened 6.5 to 7m/m would have been fine and a lot more utilitarian and definitely more elegant than the little bullpups knocking around today not that theres anything wrong with them but were never given a fair chance . Ive built all but one of them, and while I bought the only one I didnt build pre-94, Ive re-built it a couple times over. My preference. its amazing how quick our military discounts and ignores the lessons learned by adversary militaries as if its sacrilegious to do so. Premium American-made bolt action hunting rifles. 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